2008 EFI Class

[1BadGoat]

So who here is Signing up for the 2008 EFI Class? The car count going to grow in 08???

[CrawlinRS]

I'll be back. Hopefully running the 11.0 or 11.5 index.

[1BadGoat]

I'll be back. Hopefully running the 11.0 or 11.5 index.

Looks Like we may end up in the same class :eek:

[REDGAR]

I will make Atco but cannot commit to the full season right now

[CrawlinRS]

Looks Like we may end up in the same class :eek:

Thats good, the EFi class could use some faster cars in it, plus some posibilities of some good heads up action. :D

[1BadGoat]

Thats good, the EFi class could use some faster cars in it, plus some posibilities of some good heads up action. :D

Hopefully we will have a good car count this year - See ya at the Banquet :cool:

[1BadGoat]

I will make Atco but cannot commit to the full season right now

Red,
Your going to run EFI?

[REDGAR]

Yes I will run EFI at Atco. I wanted to run mean street but my motor is nowhere close to where it needs to be for rhat and since I cannot commit to the full season, I am not going to make the changes.

[Matt D]

I will be at Joliet for sure, but do not know about the rest of them. It all depends on my work schedule. I will be running 11.0 or 11.50 as well.

[1BadGoat]

Geez I figured I would see more people chime in by now?

[REDGAR]

Unfortunately there are not a lot of people to begin with on this forum and even less for a new class such as EFI entering its second season

[VicRattlehead]

if the rules allow ill be in efi for next year. not sure what races yet.

[Wicked ls1]

Count me in for the efi class.Joliet for sure,and would like to do a few more.
10.50,11.00,11.50 Depends on what gets done this winter:D

[CrawlinRS]

Ok to sum things up here this is a rough head count that I have.

Myself (most likely all races unless there is $$ problems)
C5ULater (most likely all races)
Matt D (joliet mabey more)
1BadGoat (full schedule)
Wicked LS1 (joliet mabey more)
REDGAR (atco)


I would asume the following to come back also, but I am not sure :

Roxanne Shepard (not sure how many races, she runs MM in NMRA)
Shane Williams (same as Roxanne)
Doug (mabey, he told me if he didn't win the championship he'd be back told me he was going to race his truck in OC in 2008)
Bobby Barrick ??
Rachel Remek
Kp ?? (Last I spoke to him he was talkin about building a bolt on car for the class)

I'll try to talk to people at the awards (if they are there) and I'll post up when we get back.


Sorry if I spelled anyones names wrong. Feel free to correct me.

Also, I am glad to see some faster ET possiblities for the class.

[1BadGoat]

I know I am looking at running the full schedule unless something pops up

[VicRattlehead]

if they change the cars and let me in id be in for all the races except for fl and atco

[CrawlinRS]

What rules change are you looking for ?? LT1's ??

[VicRattlehead]

not ls1, adding MN12 tbird cougar 4.6L

[CrawlinRS]

ohh ok. :D

[kpevin]

I'll make a race or two, I was tempted to just do a heads/cam car and run 11.50s and make more of the races but I'm too lazy to deal with two cars :)

[1BadGoat]

I'll make a race or two, I was tempted to just do a heads/cam car and run 11.50s and make more of the races but I'm too lazy to deal with two cars :)

Well if you need a driver let me know :D . Who here besides Crawlin, and Myself are going to the Banquet?

[Matt D]

I'll make a race or two, I was tempted to just do a heads/cam car and run 11.50s and make more of the races but I'm too lazy to deal with two cars :)

You need heads and cam to go 11.50s? Bring that car to me Kevin, I will have it running 11.50s with a bone stock longblock :D

[Wicked ls1]

You need heads and cam to go 11.50s? Bring that car to me Kevin, I will have it running 11.50s with a bone stock longblock :D
Take it from me he aint lying.:eek:

[kpevin]

You need heads and cam to go 11.50s? Bring that car to me Kevin, I will have it running 11.50s with a bone stock longblock :D


Well to me a an 11.50 index car should be able to run 10.90s in good weather. Because in the middle of summer in Atlanta or Bowling Green if you run into a 95 degree day that 11.50 car will be a 12.10 car ;)

[CrawlinRS]

Well to me a an 11.50 index car should be able to run 10.90s in good weather.


Shhhh, your giving out my secret. :cool:

[Matt D]

Well to me a an 11.50 index car should be able to run 10.90s in good weather. Because in the middle of summer in Atlanta or Bowling Green if you run into a 95 degree day that 11.50 car will be a 12.10 car ;)

<--- 10.90s in good weather, 11.50s in 2500+ DA :D

[VicRattlehead]

so far not so good. no mn12's in efi so im probably going to be running IMSM instead this year.

[CrawlinRS]

so far not so good. no mn12's in efi so im probably going to be running IMSM instead this year.

i'm gonna try and make a few of the IMSM races this year. I heard from a little birdie its a bunch of stock fox Mustangs running the classes over there. Time to mix some GM's in there.

[kpevin]

<--- 10.90s in good weather, 11.50s in 2500+ DA :D

Dont know where you race but 2500 DA IS good weather around here :)

[CreeRacing]

I heard from a little birdie its a bunch of stock fox Mustangs running the classes over there. Time to mix some GM's in there.
We'd like to mix some fox mustangs in the "Late Model" EFI! :D

[CrawlinRS]

We'd like to mix some fox mustangs in the "Late Model" EFI! :D

No we don't.

[Dragracingirl03]

Why not????

[CrawlinRS]

In my opinion there are plently of other classes loaded with Fox body mustangs. Some of those cars are 20 years old, how can you consider that "late model ?"

[CreeRacing]

i think is what she and i are talkin about is just giving people an opportunity to run our mustangs in NMCA in an index class. if we wanted to run NMRA or whatever we'd be there and not expressing our opinions on here. and forget about the late model and it is seeming to be a ls1 shootout. i agree our cars aren't "late model" but just tryin to open up the door that's all. no offense to GM at all. you are respected, but why limit it to certain years! why i'll never know, seems we aren't welcome so best of luck champ

[Dragracingirl03]

I know fox bodies don't fit your so called "late model" EFI term and I agree that they aren't late model. Nobody said that "late model" EFI has to remain "late model" EFI. Just trying to open up the field for more competition!

[GMCRACER]

I wanna run my 85 L98 Vette as well....

[CrawlinRS]

They way I look at it is, if they won't let LT1 cars and 95-96 mustangs in the class why should they let fox bodied mustangs in the class ? Thats why it may seem that I am a little salty on the issue, and I personally don't wanna see another fox body dominated (as in car count) class.

Honestly it is not a GM class. It's pretty much an even match between Ford and Chevy cars at each race.

The class is titled "Late Model EFI." If they are going to open it up to all EFI cars, which I agree will add more cars, then they really can't call it late model.

Once again this is just my opinion. NMCA/Promedia will do what ever they want with the class.

You guys have up to tomorrow (12-12-07) to send in a request or rules change suggestion to ProMedia/NMCA.
I suggest you guys speak your minds to them if you really wanna try and get fox bodies accepted into the class.
Email requests to: nmcarules@promediapub.com.
The info is also on the front page.

[Matt D]

Mustangs have the whole friggin NMRA. That is what it is all about! We have one measly little class. If your Mustang can't fit into one of the NMRA classes or in Open Comp in NMCA, you might want to think about racing elsewhere. This is LATE MODEL EFI. Your cars are not late model anymore. Hell, the LS1 is going on 11 years old as it is...

[Matt D]

Dont know where you race but 2500 DA IS good weather around here :)

Best I raced in this year was -700 DA. I plan on making a trip down south and catching some -2500 DA in the next few months.

[ShadowLands]

New guy question......
I'm looking things over and it appears that the payout in EFI is limited to contingency only and no winner/runner up money. True or False?

I'm looking at running three or four events this season.

[Jim Morris]

I plan on going to some of the races. You can count me in.

[CrawlinRS]

New guy question......
I'm looking things over and it appears that the payout in EFI is limited to contingency only and no winner/runner up money. True or False?

I'm looking at running three or four events this season.

False,

Win $ 400.00
R/u $ 200.00
Semi $ 100.00
Quarters $ 75.00

Contingency payouts
Winner $ 150.00 per sticker
R/U $ 75.00 per sticker

FYI, you must have the part on your car. If the NMCA official cannot visually see the part, example a converter or a cam, you have to send a copy of your receipt to the manufacture that you are trying to claim the contingency on. KEEP ALL OF YOUR RECEIPTS WHEN YOU BUY PARTS !!

[Jim Morris]

I'm gonna need to start saving mine too then.

[WarrenRacing71]

cam cards help too. i keep mine in my glove box.

[Dragracingirl03]

Well sir, you're correct...mustangs do have the whole NMRA to run in. Do I choose to run there, no. Sorry, but just trying to get the car count up. As I and other people have said before, guess we're not welcome. Suggestions are made and they are like sins to you people on here and no one wants to hear them. God forbid if a suggestion is made on here b/c if I had known that all I would have got was a slap in the face and bashed for my opinion, I would have kept my mouth shut! You want the car count up, but you don't want to give or take. Well, it takes one or the other. The NMCA asked for suggestions, and I did just that.

[Matt D]

I did not bash you nor slapped you in the face. This is a LATE MODEL EFI class. LATE MODEL. Your Mustangs are not LATE MODEL like everyone has been saying for the past two years, but something just isn't getting across to you guys, and I don't know where the communication gap is... We appreciate you wanting to get the car count up for this class, but it should be more cars that fit the LATE MODEL requirements, not ammend the rules just so a few more people are attending each race. Do you see it now or do I have to go more in depth?

I don't know where you are located, but around here in the IL area, we also have NHRA Top Sportsman brackets and the IMSM Index race series that I race in both as well. In IMSM, the classes are based on E.T., not type of vehicle. You might want to look into something like that as well if you can't find a class within the NMCA & NMRA that satisfies you.

[GMCRACER]

and now I know what killed the f-body....

[ShadowLands]

False,

Win $ 400.00
R/u $ 200.00
Semi $ 100.00
Quarters $ 75.00

Contingency payouts
Winner $ 150.00 per sticker
R/U $ 75.00 per sticker

FYI, you must have the part on your car. If the NMCA official cannot visually see the part, example a converter or a cam, you have to send a copy of your receipt to the manufacture that you are trying to claim the contingency on. KEEP ALL OF YOUR RECEIPTS WHEN YOU BUY PARTS !!

Thank you! That helps quite a bit. Receipts are like sacred scrolls around here. I firmly believe that keeping them helps ward off the evil spirits from the IRS audit division. :D

By the way, what is the entry fee?

[kpevin]

Best I raced in this year was -700 DA. I plan on making a trip down south and catching some -2500 DA in the next few months.

You wont find -2500' DA around here unless you fall into a 2000' deep well in February :) Have to go to florida or texas in the winter for the magic air ;)

[ShadowLands]

We've had -1270 feet at HRP before but never had -2500 feet. We have great air here in January/February but -2500 feet just does not happen on this planet.

[WarrenRacing71]

Thank you! That helps quite a bit. Receipts are like sacred scrolls around here. I firmly believe that keeping them helps ward off the evil spirits from the IRS audit division. :D

By the way, what is the entry fee?


$110 for the weekend usually. Same for every class.

[CreeRacing]

I did not bash you nor slapped you in the face. This is a LATE MODEL EFI class. LATE MODEL. Your Mustangs are not LATE MODEL like everyone has been saying for the past two years, but something just isn't getting across to you guys, and I don't know where the communication gap is... We appreciate you wanting to get the car count up for this class, but it should be more cars that fit the LATE MODEL requirements, not ammend the rules just so a few more people are attending each race. Do you see it now or do I have to go more in depth?

I don't know where you are located, but around here in the IL area, we also have NHRA Top Sportsman brackets and the IMSM Index race series that I race in both as well. In IMSM, the classes are based on E.T., not type of vehicle. You might want to look into something like that as well if you can't find a class within the NMCA & NMRA that satisfies you.

Just doesn't satisfy us, we did what we could by making a suggestion-end of story. NMCA's schedule fits us more than the others and honestly we don't want to race anywhere else if we wanted to be elsewhere we wouldn't be making fools out of ourselves by posting our opinions on here or e-mailing our suggestions nearly everyday to NMCA. I'd rather go out and buy a LATE MODEL that fits the exact requirements to keep opinions inside the nmca rather than to be recommended to race elsewhere. Just to let you know though, to keep the sportsmanship and respect in the air you are more than welcome to come join our class anytime, we won't bash ya!

On the other hand- if you or any of your buddies know of any LATE MODEL EFI mustangs if your area for sale PM me or something because i know of a highly talented fine young lady that would love to win a championship in this class!

[Matt D]

Just doesn't satisfy us, we did what we could by making a suggestion-end of story. NMCA's schedule fits us more than the others and honestly we don't want to race anywhere else if we wanted to be elsewhere we wouldn't be making fools out of ourselves by posting our opinions on here or e-mailing our suggestions nearly everyday to NMCA. I'd rather go out and buy a LATE MODEL that fits the exact requirements to keep opinions inside the nmca rather than to be recommended to race elsewhere. Just to let you know though, to keep the sportsmanship and respect in the air you are more than welcome to come join our class anytime, we won't bash ya!

On the other hand- if you or any of your buddies know of any LATE MODEL EFI mustangs if your area for sale PM me or something because i know of a highly talented fine young lady that would love to win a championship in this class!

I would be welcome to join what class? NMRA? With what car? My Camaro? THAT won't happen. And I never bashed anyone on this site. :rolleyes:

No thanks. I am not a big fan of Fords, no offense, and I already run three series so my schedule is a little bit busy. Thanks for the offer though.

I will keep an eye out for a late model Mustang for you. We welcome as many as we can get, as long as they meet the requirements for the class.

[CrawlinRS]

FYI, you guys still may have a chance to send in a rules change request via the email I posted up on the previous page.

[CrawlinRS]

Just doesn't satisfy us, we did what we could by making a suggestion-end of story. NMCA's schedule fits us more than the others and honestly we don't want to race anywhere else if we wanted to be elsewhere we wouldn't be making fools out of ourselves by posting our opinions on here or e-mailing our suggestions nearly everyday to NMCA. I'd rather go out and buy a LATE MODEL that fits the exact requirements to keep opinions inside the nmca rather than to be recommended to race elsewhere. Just to let you know though, to keep the sportsmanship and respect in the air you are more than welcome to come join our class anytime, we won't bash ya!

On the other hand- if you or any of your buddies know of any LATE MODEL EFI mustangs if your area for sale PM me or something because i know of a highly talented fine young lady that would love to win a championship in this class!

There is no bashing here. What you are suggesting is like me going over to the NMRA Modular Muscle Class and asking for them to accept my car/engine in there class. It aint gonna happen, the car doesn't fit the class. Same with your issue, your car doesn't fit the class. Hell, my car is almost 10 years old and with the Camaro comming back out, my car may not be considered Late Model anymore in the near future. I'd say your best bet is to get a car that fits the class, or like I said before contact the rules poeple at the NMCA. Posting up your suggestions on this message board will not change the rules. You have to send in a formal request via email.

You said "Just to let you know though, to keep the sportsmanship and respect in the air you are more than welcome to come join our class anytime, we won't bash ya!"

What class is that ?

[Matt D]

I'm still waiting for a response... What class?

[Villain281H]

I will break out the back-up (Formula) and likely will see some of you in Bradenton! :D

[CrawlinRS]

I will break out the back-up (Formula) and likely will see some of you in Bradenton! :D

Did you run the EFI class last year ? I don't remember a 2000 formula in the class.

[Matt D]

I'm still waiting for a reply from those crying with the Mustangs...

[Stangman98]

I'm still waiting for a reply from those crying with the Mustangs...

And that's the prime reason I won't race the NMCA, is because of dumdass comments like that. I thinks it funny that Ford Mustang, 4.6L Modular equipped, 1996-current can run, but the 94-95 with the same body style can't run nor can any T-Birds which run the same motor and the '96 and newer Mustangs...apparently not late model enough :rolleyes:
Then you go on about "LATE MODEL" and that a fox body Mustang isn't but apparently a '92 Viper is :rolleyes:
The rules in this class are jacked in my opinion. You should want 80's and
90's Camaro's, Firebirds, TransAm's, Mustangs, ect.
What kind of class allows a Jeep to run and not a Camaro, Mustang ect?
It allows for all Mod Motor equiped Mustangs, but not Thunderbirds, Crown Vics, ect
You want more cars but you limit yourself's because there is the NMRA. Well guess what, even NOPI allows 80-90's Mustangs and that is geared towards an import crowd :eek:
And now you guys are going to loose even more '05 and newer with the new Ultra Stang class that NMRA will run this season. I love the idea of the class, but to limit the kinds of cars like they do is absolutly stupid :D

I want to give you my opinion of something...take it as you will and the fact that you will never have enough cars in the class or people in the stands...just like Mod Motor in NMRA...

Chevrolet Corvette, LS1, LS2, LS6, LS7, 1997-current Great CarChevrolet Camaro, LS1, 1998-current Great Car
Chevrolet SSR, LS2, 2005-2006 Funny Looking Truck That Didn't Sell Well
Chevrolet Trail Blazer, LS2, 2006-current SUV
Ford Mustang, 4.6L Modular equipped, 1996-current Great Car
Ford Shelby Mustang, 5.4, 2007-current Great Car
Ford Lighting, 5.4, 1999-2004 Awesome Truck, Sold Great, Out Of Production for 4 years already though
Ford Marauder, 4.6. 2003-2004 4 Door Sedan 2 Productions Years..It's actually a Mercury BTW:p
Chrysler 300, Hemi V8, 2005-current Pimp Mobile
Dodge Viper, V10, 1992-current Awesome Car...but '92 is late model???
Dodge Challenger, Hemi V8, 2007- Very Nice Car
Dodge Magnum, Hemi V8, 2005-current Nice Station Wagon
Dodge Charger, Hemi V8, 2006-current Nice Car
Dodge SRT-10, V10, 2004-2006 Very Nice truck
Jeep SRT8 Grand Cherokee, Hemi V8 2006-current It's a Jeep Thing I don't get
Pontiac GTO, LS1/2, 2004-current Very Nice Car
Pontiac Trans Am LS1, 1998-2002 Awesome Car

You look at this list and tell me that a good amount of people associate half these vehicles with drag racing??? Again, not to offend people that own them, but people don't think of a Jeep SRT8 when talking drag racing.
Just something to think about before you go off and rant and rave about the 80's and 90's Mustangs, Camaros, Vettes, T/A's, Firebirds, ect not being late model.

[NMCA Scott]

Geez... I've been under a rock, or in a cave or something. I missed all the of this. Be nice to each other boys or I'll have to put my censorship badge on.

Stangman...for the record. I see your point. But I don't make the rules.

[nmcajeff]

Believe it or not alot of those vehicles, have a huge following Jeeps,chargers etc we just need to get the word out that the class is here for them to race it's the persons choice on what kind of vehicle they purchase not everyone wants a mustang. We are providing a place for these people to come out and have fun with there cars. In fact we are the only organization that has a class were they can race I think it's a good thing. So if you have a vehicle that fits the class come out and join us. If you would like to see a fast Jeep or even a 10 second SUV trialblazer Come to the LATE MODEL SHOOTOUT June 6-8 2008 at Atco.

[Villain281H]

Did you run the EFI class last year ? I don't remember a 2000 formula in the class.

Nope, just local bracket racing with her last year. My Nova has been down for a bunch of work, and I haven't raced in an NMCA race since 2005 (they always conflict with my local points series) but I wanted to give it another shot this year.

[CrawlinRS]

I'm still waiting for a response... What class?

Matt I'd just let it be...........

There will always be somebody that crys about something. You can't please everyone.

BTW, I wish there was a series just for F-bodies........... NFRA ??? National F-body Racing Association or maybe a NGMRA

[Matt D]

And that's the prime reason I won't race the NMCA, is because of dumdass comments like that. I thinks it funny that Ford Mustang, 4.6L Modular equipped, 1996-current can run, but the 94-95 with the same body style can't run nor can any T-Birds which run the same motor and the '96 and newer Mustangs...apparently not late model enough :rolleyes:
Then you go on about "LATE MODEL" and that a fox body Mustang isn't but apparently a '92 Viper is :rolleyes:
The rules in this class are jacked in my opinion. You should want 80's and
90's Camaro's, Firebirds, TransAm's, Mustangs, ect.
What kind of class allows a Jeep to run and not a Camaro, Mustang ect?
It allows for all Mod Motor equiped Mustangs, but not Thunderbirds, Crown Vics, ect
You want more cars but you limit yourself's because there is the NMRA. Well guess what, even NOPI allows 80-90's Mustangs and that is geared towards an import crowd :eek:
And now you guys are going to loose even more '05 and newer with the new Ultra Stang class that NMRA will run this season. I love the idea of the class, but to limit the kinds of cars like they do is absolutly stupid :D

I want to give you my opinion of something...take it as you will and the fact that you will never have enough cars in the class or people in the stands...just like Mod Motor in NMRA...

Chevrolet Corvette, LS1, LS2, LS6, LS7, 1997-current Great CarChevrolet Camaro, LS1, 1998-current Great Car
Chevrolet SSR, LS2, 2005-2006 Funny Looking Truck That Didn't Sell Well
Chevrolet Trail Blazer, LS2, 2006-current SUV
Ford Mustang, 4.6L Modular equipped, 1996-current Great Car
Ford Shelby Mustang, 5.4, 2007-current Great Car
Ford Lighting, 5.4, 1999-2004 Awesome Truck, Sold Great, Out Of Production for 4 years already though
Ford Marauder, 4.6. 2003-2004 4 Door Sedan 2 Productions Years..It's actually a Mercury BTW:p
Chrysler 300, Hemi V8, 2005-current Pimp Mobile
Dodge Viper, V10, 1992-current Awesome Car...but '92 is late model???
Dodge Challenger, Hemi V8, 2007- Very Nice Car
Dodge Magnum, Hemi V8, 2005-current Nice Station Wagon
Dodge Charger, Hemi V8, 2006-current Nice Car
Dodge SRT-10, V10, 2004-2006 Very Nice truck
Jeep SRT8 Grand Cherokee, Hemi V8 2006-current It's a Jeep Thing I don't get
Pontiac GTO, LS1/2, 2004-current Very Nice Car
Pontiac Trans Am LS1, 1998-2002 Awesome Car

You look at this list and tell me that a good amount of people associate half these vehicles with drag racing??? Again, not to offend people that own them, but people don't think of a Jeep SRT8 when talking drag racing.
Just something to think about before you go off and rant and rave about the 80's and 90's Mustangs, Camaros, Vettes, T/A's, Firebirds, ect not being late model.

I'm sorry but I am not going to read through all of that crying. You have a whole SERIES to race your Mustang in. It is called the NMRA. We have one class. A SRT8 Jeep is late model. It was made in the last few years. A 1980s Camaro wasn't. Get the point? I don't know how I can explain it different so you comprehend it. Would you like me to paint a picture? Dumbass comments? Wow, I expect that from a person like you. We'll see if you have the stones to say that to someone in person. I doubt it.

I'll tell you what. Bring your Mustang to the super bowl and I will run you heads up on the street afterwards for any dollar amount you can come up with. How does that sound?

[Stangman98]

? Wow, I expect that from a person like you. We'll see if you have the stones to say that to someone in person. I doubt it.

Now that's some funny stuff. I see you are from Joliet, so I tell ya what, when I am down there next month for the Race and Performance Expo why don't you give me a call and we can meet and I will say the same thing in person :D
If of course that is something you would really like to do...pm me if you'd like my phone number too. I will be staying in Glen Ellyn. :D
See ya then
Here is me so you should have no issue finding me...I assume you won't have an issue finding a 6'1 325lb guy right ;)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/stangman98/IMG_1606edited.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/stangman98/IMG_0452_resized-1.jpg

[nmcajeff]

I Think This Should Be The End Of This Topic.

[Stangman98]

I was just trying to give an intelligent comment in regards to the class and it's direction and I get bashed and called out. I just told him if he wants to talk I will talk to him. No threats nothing. I appologize if this has become an issue Jeff.

[Matt D]

For the record, saying my comments were "dumbass comments", that does not make them "intelligent" like you said. Maybe in your world, but not the rest of us. I only came back after you got shitty with me. You wanna be an asshole on here, that's fine. You're barking up the wrong tree with me. We all like to debate, but saying that shit is out of line.

How about that street race? No response to that. :rolleyes: Bring your mustang, what are you scared of?

Because Jeff said this is the end, I respect his wishes. I will not reply to you anymore.

Oh, and PM me your number cupcake, I'll be there. ;)

[Stangman98]

PM sent.
Have a good day.
See everyone at Joliet or sooner :)

[vrtical]

oh snap are mufflers required street racing?

[GMCRACER]

being the good moderator that I am I am going to lock this thread for Deputy Sparrow to decided what to do with...

[NMCA Scott]

Flexing your muscles George? I think everyone has calmed down enough now. I'm going to open it up again. Matt and Stangman, keep it cool or I'll toss you both into the penalty box.

[CrawlinRS]

damn kids...........

[Stangman98]

Flexing your muscles George? I think everyone has calmed down enough now. I'm going to open it up again. Matt and Stangman, keep it cool or I'll toss you both into the penalty box.


:eek::eek::eek::eek::D

[GMCRACER]

Flexing your muscles George? I think everyone has calmed down enough now. I'm going to open it up again. Matt and Stangman, keep it cool or I'll toss you both into the penalty box.

Okey dokey....

Just trying to help with the unwritten laws....

[YellowMenace]

I'm thinking about running a few of these this year. I've read the rules and I'm still kinda confused.

Does each index run separately?

Then do they run all the indices against each other like an open comp race?

Do they just pay one person to win or is there a winner in each index?

Is the special Atco race part of this points series, or is it a separate race?

I have a roll bar but it goes in the side of the seat plastic parts (03 mustang). Do I have to have a back seat even though it's pretty much unusable with a roll bar?

I have a 4.6L mod motor that's been bored and stroked to approx 5.1L. Do these mods mean it doesn't meet the spec for the engine?

I'm sure I'll think of some more.

[CrawlinRS]

I'm thinking about running a few of these this year. I've read the rules and I'm still kinda confused.

I'm sure I'll think of some more.


Does each index run separately? no. Basically your index is your dial-in. It's just like Bracket Racing but you have to pick from a given set of dial ins or indexs. So say your runs runs at best a 10.7, that falls inbetween a 10.50 index and 11.0 index. I would highly recommend you to pic the 11.0 index, and somehow slow the car down consistantly. If during a race you go faster than your index you are eliminated.

Then do they run all the indices against each other like an open comp race? Yes, if your index is 11.0 and my index is 13.0 I will get a 2 second head start. Who ever gets to the finish line first, without redlighting, crosing the centerline or going faster than their index wins.

Do they just pay one person to win or is there a winner in each index? One winner for the class.

Is the special Atco race part of this points series, or is it a separate race? The NMCA Late Model EFI class is a NMCA class. The class is run at every NMCA event. The Late Model Shootout at Atco and the LSX shootout in Memphis are seperate classes. They do not combine the classes. You can either run the NMCA Late Model EFI class, the Late model shootout class, or the LSX shootout class; you cannot race in both with the same car. The NMCA Late Model EFI class is a points class for the NMCA, the other 2 classes are not points classes.

I have a roll bar but it goes in the side of the seat plastic parts (03 mustang). Do I have to have a back seat even though it's pretty much unusable with a roll bar?

The rules state that if you have a roll bar you can remove your backseats. The rules also state the interior must be carpeted, so you should not see any sheetmetal. Hope fully one of the NMCA tech guys will chime in on this one.


I have a 4.6L mod motor that's been bored and stroked to approx 5.1L. Do these mods mean it doesn't meet the spec for the engine? As long as you have a mod motor in your 03 Mustang, you should be fine. There are no rules that say you can't bore and stroke a motor.

I hope this helps answer some of your questions. If you do run some of the races look for me and I'll try to help you out with any questions or concerns.

[YellowMenace]

Thanks for the info.

No problem with the exposed sheet metal. I have a rear seat delete kit as required in Street Stang at FFW. The one I have also doubles as a firewall for the trunk.

I remember one question I forgot before.

In one of the rules (either EFI or the Atco race) it says shifting must not be electronically controlled. My 4R70W is an electronic tranny from the factory. I'm not talking about an aftermarket air or electronic shifter here. The shifts are commanded by the stock computer. Legal?

I still have the stock type valve body. Not a manual. I put the car in drive and go.

[CrawlinRS]

I remember one question I forgot before.

In one of the rules (either EFI or the Atco race) it says shifting must not be electronically controlled. My 4R70W is an electronic tranny from the factory. I'm not talking about an aftermarket air or electronic shifter here. The shifts are commanded by the stock computer. Legal?


Thats odd, I'll have to look at how the rules are worded again. I am sure they mean no air shifters or anything like that. I am just like you, I let the car shift itself, more consistant that way. ;) I really don't think they can have a rule stating shifting cannot be electronically controlled considering we are talkin about a "late model" class.

[NMCA Scott]

H'mmmm.... I think YellowMenace read from the Manual Transmission sub-section in the rulebook. Either way, the stock tranny is fine and dandy. Bring it on!