Kenny Lafferty!!!!!!!!!!!

[bbnova]

You mentioned power after second round in Memphis. I would like to go over the numbers with you and show you the difference between power and aero.


........Parent...........Coletta

60'....1.161...............1.152 Congrats and we have work to do on the 60'
330...3.171...............3.180
1/8....4.845...............4.848 Ut oh, Team BBNova outran you by .012 from the 60' to the 1/8th. That my friend is power!!!
mph...147.31.............148.40 Here comes the aero difference Kenny
1000..6.289...............6.285
1/4....7.517...............7.486 This is aero difference!!!!!
mph....181.15............186.51


Now, I'm not askin for anything. I'm just pointing out the difference.:D

[Super68Camaro]

You mentioned power after second round in Memphis. I would like to go over the numbers with you and show you the difference between power and aero.


........Parent...........Coletta

60'....1.161...............1.152 Congrats and we have work to do on the 60'
330...3.171...............3.180
1/8....4.845...............4.848 Ut oh, Team BBNova outran you by .012 from the 60' to the 1/8th. That my friend is power!!!mph...147.31.............148.40 Here comes the aero difference Kenny
1000..6.289...............6.285
1/4....7.517...............7.486 This is aero difference!!!!!
mph....181.15............186.51


Now, I'm not askin for anything. I'm just pointing out the difference.:D


No I think your mistaken, the 1/8 mile time is the difference between a powerglide and a three speed.:eek: The backhalf is the power difference!!

[bbnova]

Bumped your head...:eek::D

[klafferty]

Nice job team BBNova you guys have done a great job this year

[bbnova]

That's it???? Really????


I think I might be in trouble when you rest up.....:eek:



Did you find your problem yet???

[mrsbbnova]

I think someone got a hold of his screen name and password baby ;)

[DRAGRCR632]

kevin that doesnt prove anything????

here is our last pass against widner


1.14
3.15
4.82
147
6.26
7.48
182

so i guess my 67 camaro is more aero then colettas?????

OH and thats with only 5 passes on a new car

kevin i think you got to work your combo out

LRT

[BBNovaChris]

kevin that doesnt prove anything????

here is our last pass against widner


1.14
3.15
4.82
147
6.26
7.48
182

so i guess my 67 camaro is more aero then colettas?????

OH and thats with only 5 passes on a new car

kevin i think you got to work your combo out

LRT

uhhhhh.

Your pass you posted is beating Jeff from start to finish.
Kevins pass has Jeff beating Kevin out of the hole, Kevin passing him, then when aerodynamics are taking over, Jeff passing Kevin again.

How did you miss that point?

[DRAGRCR632]

no i got your point you missed
mine instead of whinning about
it fix your combo

PERIOD




LRT

[BBNovaChris]

oooooo K tough guy. if you say so.

[bbnova]

He's cute and fluffy isn't he!!!!!!!!!!:D

[BBNovaChris]

LOL. exactly!

[klafferty]

Yes i was a lil beat Kevin I have alot ahead of me right now ...
But the answer to your statement is not aero but maybe all of the timing has ramped in and its starting to drive away from you... Which would mean that the power has came in and you can't deal with it ...

[DRAGRCR632]

ok i see if people dont agree with
the parents that you resort to name calling

whats wrong you jealous???????

keep the name calling out period

LRT

[DRAGRCR632]

funny thing is you say aero

we already get 75 weight break that colleta
doesnt get so what you want another 50-75
for the aero do whatever you want cause at
memphis we were 45 heavy so what ever weight break
you ask for we will also get so lets say you get another
50 that makes us at the next race almost 100 lighter???

so with some tunin we could go .40 or .39

fine with me


LRT

[BBNovaChris]

funny thing is you say aero

we already get 75 weight break that colleta
doesnt get so what you want another 50-75
for the aero do whatever you want cause at
memphis we were 45 heavy so what ever weight break
you ask for we will also get so lets say you get another
50 that makes us at the next race almost 100 lighter???

so with some tunin we could go .40 or .39

fine with me


LRT

This been argued again and again.

Go play with the math

Here, I'll give you a head start and save you some time.

Drag = 1/391 x Cd x A x Vsquared

Cd = drag coefficient of the object
A = Frontal Area of the object
V = the speed of the air past the object

Go measure some cars.

No, 75 lbs isn't enough. Even if the drag coefficient were the same on a 2000 Camero as a 1969 Nova, the frontal area is WAY off. Finish the math and you'll see.

But whatever, this isn't about whining as you put it. It's about proving something by logic and math and using your head.

Try it some time! ;)

[Ben Holt]

You have to be careful and really know what you're looking at witht he time slips, though, Chris. There is a distinct difference in acceleration between a Gilde and Th210 from the 60 to 660, and I have seen tests where the glide is worth 3 to 4 mph over the 400 due to less rotating weight.........
The time slip makes more sense to me like that. I know what we ran to the 330 and 1/8 on our .51, and if we didn't have our heads screwed on backwards it would have been a .47. Not to argue, just a point.
We are not complaining about the aero, because we know how quick we should have been from the 660 to the 1320, and if anyone should complain about the aero....it's us!!!

I think that's the point that Radnis is trying to make....he ran pretty good in the back with old iron.....

[DRAGRCR632]

what i think MR parent, is use YOUR own
LOGIC and make more POWER then maybe
you can run
and make it 60 better????
NOT AERO

and why all of a sudden about aero????

you didnt seem to complain when tony
was kickin with his vette??????

LRT

[BBNovaChris]

what i think MR parent, is use YOUR own
LOGIC and make more POWER then maybe
you can run
and make it 60 better????
NOT AERO

and why all of a sudden about aero????

you didnt seem to complain when tony
was kickin with his vette??????

LRT

I think you have me confused with my brother.


Dont worry, most people do.

And it's getting old.

[BBNovaChris]

and BTW: It's not "all of a sudden about aero????"

Lafferty and Terry said that in regard to aerodynamics and E.T., there's little or no difference between a 2000+ Camaro and a 1969 Nova; and that a 1987-1993 Mustang is actually worse than a 1969 Nova.

At this point, it's more rib poking and laughing than anything serious.

You found your way into an a$$ slapping contest. Welcome.

[bbnova]

Go take a couple deep breaths and count to 20. Ok?? Ya done???? Go reread my original post. I'm pretty sure at the end I said I am not asking for anything. And just for the record, This thread was directed at Kenny just for fun.


Hey, I think I figured it out, maybe you can't read???:eek:





funny thing is you say aero

we already get 75 weight break that colleta
doesnt get so what you want another 50-75
for the aero do whatever you want cause at
memphis we were 45 heavy so what ever weight break
you ask for we will also get so lets say you get another
50 that makes us at the next race almost 100 lighter???

so with some tunin we could go .40 or .39

fine with me


LRT

[bbnova]

Kenny made a statement after Jeff handed me my ass 2nd round. This thread is directed at Kenny only as the title of this thread indicates. Now go find some HP because next season is coming soon!!!!!:D

[Jim Widener]

funny thing is you say aero

we already get 75 weight break that colleta
doesnt get so what you want another 50-75
for the aero do whatever you want cause at
memphis we were 45 heavy so what ever weight break
you ask for we will also get so lets say you get another
50 that makes us at the next race almost 100 lighter???

so with some tunin we could go .40 or .39

fine with me


LRT

Looks to me that they just proved that this combo has alot more potential like i've been trying to tell you guys.Im pretty sure his car has a fogger on it right 30jet 7.48 5 hits?So now I'm gonna get a big lead trophy and have to play catch up to a blue camaro:(

[bbnova]

Who went the 7.39....:eek::D

[Jim Widener]

The timiers at the track were faulty must have been picking up the bumper cover or somethin:D

[bbnova]

Gotta love ya Jim.....:D

[klafferty]

I'm with ya Kevin ... NO faulty timers, it will go .35-.37 if he really runs it...

[klafferty]

Good job Jim we need you to carry that throphy next year

[klafferty]

Lmao , Yes I Have Rested Up Big Red

[Jim Widener]

You get tired of seein tailights let me know and i'll show you how to make that mustang run the number:eek:

[Jim Widener]

I'm with ya Kevin ... NO faulty timers, it will go .35-.37 if he really runs it...

will go .39 to .41 whith some testing.

[bbnova]

he didn't.....:eek:

LOL.. This should be good...

Show time!!!!!!!!!

[bbnova]

Doesn't make it true....

I will agree with a 7.45 maybe in good air. There is still .07 or more difference.





will go .39 to .41 whith some testing.

[bbnova]

Should have more of an advantage...

[Jim Widener]

big chiefs and i'll find out for ya.

[bbnova]

You really should be charging admission Jim....:D


LMFAO!!!!

[bbnova]

Fords should have to Ford engines....:D

[Jim Widener]

Realy whatch what you ask for ricart's motor makes some good power image what it would do in my car hmm anyone got ricarts #:D

[bbnova]

I'd be sure and pay the money to check that valve angle...:D

And why would you want to go slower anyway...:eek:

[Jim Widener]

It's being forced on me by a bunch of slow a-- 632"s:D

[mrsbbnova]

Oooooooooooooooooooooooowe

[mrsbbnova]

I Love You Guys !

[Villain281H]

Something tells me the interview with Widener will be a "fun" one ;)

Derek

[klafferty]

come on down Jim and take a poke at it I am lost for sure...

[Jim Craig]

big chiefs and i'll find out for ya.


C'mon Jimmy, BES's NPS legal Big Block head flows as much as a big chief -- who you trying to bs.............and I'm sure Tony has run a small ci big chief motor on spray on his dyno while you've been their................

Congrat's on your outstanding year -- you have done well.

[bbnova]

I think Wiedner is trying to convince hinself.....:eek:

[Jim Widener]

I know what my motor makes and I know what mcoys motor makes but I also know what was made with a good 632.How you say 7.300000000000000000's.


Kevin
let me convince myself.Conventional head vs big chief 120 -150hp uhhhh no convincing needed.Hey how bought you buy my engine and I'll buil a big chief piece:D

[bbnova]

I would just build a short block and put my top end on it....

Thanks though...

[klafferty]

What are the rule changes going to be for 09 ...
I have a customer that has a 67 camaro and wants to run the 09 season so I need to know what to build for him...

Canted valve small block chevy ?
530 BIG CHIEF ?
Small Block Ford W/Blue Thunder ?

[Robin]

What are the rule changes going to be for 09 ...
I have a customer that has a 67 camaro and wants to run the 09 season so I need to know what to build for him...

Canted valve small block chevy ?
530 BIG CHIEF ?
Small Block Ford W/Blue Thunder ?


That 530 Big Chief is looking very interesting:eek:


Robin

[klafferty]

All 3 look very interesting I just need to know what the 09 weights are gonna be...
And if they are gonna consider letting the Small Block Chevy canted valve head in...

[Jim Craig]

I've got one 500 ci big chief'd DRCE and one 500 ci Olds headed DRCE looking for a good home. Both are .840 b/s, with sheet metals & such

Big Chief
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii47/wjc1959/100_0693.jpg

Olds
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii47/wjc1959/100_0694.jpg

[BBNovaChris]

whats the on the intake ports on the bigchief one?

[bbnova]

With a lot more weight I hope....



All 3 look very interesting I just need to know what the 09 weights are gonna be...
And if they are gonna consider letting the Small Block Chevy canted valve head in...

[Jim Craig]

whats the on the intake ports on the bigchief one?

Epoxy -- you'd be surprised what's lurking inside a Pro Stock "mule"................